Congratulations, John Tory...
You have officially eradicated any chance whatsoever of winning the 2007 Ontario Election.
I'm pretty sure such a thing would have only be foreseen in Cherniak or Kinsella wet dreams, honestly. This is political suicide to a degree I have never before witnessed.
I'm pretty sure such a thing would have only be foreseen in Cherniak or Kinsella wet dreams, honestly. This is political suicide to a degree I have never before witnessed.
Labels: John Tory, Ontario Politics
posted by BCT 2.0 @ 1:01 AM
8 Comments:
At September 06, 2007 4:05 AM,
BEAJ said…
He can back track all he wants now, and I still won't vote for him. He needs to go. I wrote a piece on this myself.
At September 06, 2007 5:28 AM,
Torian said…
what the HELL was he thinking?!?!!
At September 06, 2007 5:44 AM,
John M Reynolds said…
According to the 2001 census ( http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/products/highlight/Religion/Page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo=PR&View=1a&Code=01&Table=1&StartRec=1&Sort=2&B1=Canada&B2=1 ) only 16.2% of the people who answered the census identified themselves as no religion. How can alienating 16.2% of the population be such a horrible set back?
At September 06, 2007 5:45 AM,
John M Reynolds said…
That URL did not come through well. Here is a smaller version:
http://tinyurl.com/yqz29
At September 06, 2007 6:49 AM,
Kitchener Conservative said…
John,
16.2%? there lies the problem. It's only a small percentage of the Christian religion that wants Creationism taught at school not all. Most people would agree that religion should stay out of school.
I was raised a Lutheran, my minister professed that that the bible shouldn't be taken a literal document. It's the ideals in it that are most important, not blindly believing it as a encyclopedia of human knowledge.
At September 06, 2007 7:15 AM,
John M Reynolds said…
KC, that 16.2% were the people with NO religion. The other 83.8% had some kind of religion where most were Judeo-Christian. Even Muslims' God is the God of Abraham and Moses. Besides, this is about allowing intelligent design to be taught in religious classes in religious private schools that were going to get funding under the John Tory promise anyway. I don't see the big deal.
At September 06, 2007 1:15 PM,
BC Tory said…
It's not even so much the policy aspect of this. It's the political ramifications. Given the heated controversy of this in the US, it renders Tory as some right-wing fundamentalist, or at least that's the card McGuinty will play now.
If I lived in Ontario, I'd still vote for him, but holy shit, this was just plain idiotic.
At September 08, 2007 11:46 AM,
Miles Lunn said…
I too will be voting for him since if anything he has shown has a Red Tory from past actions and considering he supported gay marriage (unlike Harper) and is pro-choice he can hardly be called a religious fundamentalist. Still I agree this is going to hurt him as McGuinty will certainly play this card and it will be a tough fight. He still could potentially win as Harper's statement on re-visiting gay marriage in 2005 when the election began didn't hurt him, but it is going to be an uphill battle. When I first got involved in politics with the BC Liberals, we were told essentially to stay away from hot button issues which Campbell understood could only hurt him and I think Tory needs to learn this.
John M. Reynolds - Just because 83% believe in God, doesn't mean they want to have religion and politics mixed. In fact the vast majority of people who are religious believe in a secular society where faith is kept out of schools and out of politics. In addition many of the 83% are only religious in name. Some people simply check off the beliefs their family historically held even if they no longer practice the religion. Much the same way people check off the ancestry of their parents, grand-parents, great-grand parents and even much earlier even if they don't speak the language and have no cultural connection to the country of their origin. And even those who do believe in a certain religion don't always follow it to the core. Many devout Christians for example support gay marriage even if goes against their religion and most Catholics believe in the use or birth control even if their religion is opposed to it.
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